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Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:48:22 -0800 http://backend.userland.com/rss092 hi guys ,welcome to arm -7TDMIi shall be posting relevant documents one at a timeto start with let us make a lpc2138 board 1190393307_2984_FT0_lpc2138 <noauthor@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html yeah i have tried different toolsbut winarm is the bestone of the advantage is that you can use the codes directly on linuxand the other is the ease w shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Well I think i must start ARM Discussion forum too what you say?Edit:Hey the circuit is not very clear.. you must take a full size print of the circu Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html why not??that is a good ideanow once u have got the board ready download a compiler(gnu open source) fromhttp://www.siwawi.arubi.uni-kl.de/avr_projec shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html well this is the actual gifhope it opens up well [Edited by Ajay] shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html There is another tool for ARM which i like a lot its CrossWorks for ARM from Rowley Associates. They provide 30-days evaluation version..But i think Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hey can you post the availability of the ICs used in the schematic above in our "Component Availability" forum?Give contact number or shop name etc.. Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html oops the gif is bigger than i thought shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html thanks for editing ajay shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html wow.. nice.. I never used an RTOS. I always think why or how to decide when to need an RTOS when ever i think i might use an RTOS.. i find a better Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html the only problem is lpc do not come in dip packagesso we have to go for smd soldering of the ic shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html now installing winArm===>extract winarm in c drive or copy extracted winarm in c:right click mycomputer=>properties=>advanced=>environment variables=> shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hmm.. i cannot lol!Hey i forgot to tell you the best tool i used!!!!!!its Cygwin have you heard of it?its linux simulation tool on windows. So you can Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html that is not a problem for me i soldered many ICs SMD. I have a good soldering station too I tried the NXP website but samples are not available any Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html are u going to discuss ARM from basics or wat? abbas1707<abbas@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html it is available aplenty from nxp mumbaiand even in pune,hope u can come up some time.... shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html of course from basics... we are all going to learn the basic thing we always need is.. Development board, IDE etc.. only after that you can start do Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html well ajay then you must trust me and send me a cheque or something i will send u the chip by postwatsay?? shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html yes abbas we shall discuss arm from basic.but the discussion has not yet started shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html yes we can use cygwin no doubt...i have used cygwin in the past..works finebut i had problem in the Interrupt sections...and trust me winarm is almost shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html yeah this is just an initial spark of the discussion and i think everyone want to learn Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html well i used makefile in cygwin.. never used a batch.. or anything like that.. I am not sure how you worked on cygwin i have used MAKEFILE along with Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html well thats great then you will find winarm similar enough to work on..i dont know (may be i dont want much experimentation )why i am insisting on wi shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html well guys,if you want to work on cygwin download the package fromhttp://www.gnuarm.com/they also have precompiled binary for linux and MacOs shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hey i have topic opened in component availability can you please see it? eagerly want to know the cost.. Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html i have already posted shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html please post the PCB if you have Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html i can make one for rickeys world only if our users use orcad for designing..sorry iam not much into hardware so this is the only tool i use shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html i have made a design(for rickeys world) using orcad. i'll post it soon shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html wooww!! really nice i wish i could get PCB for this lol!The first one looked really simple.. i think that one was a modular design and i prefer th Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hi check the phoro of the actual proccessor board shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html oww.. its really nice really really nice Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hi these are the final working ckt u can refer too... 1190482851_2984_FT2416_arm_pcb_schematic.pdf shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Thank you Shyam looking forward for it Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html the schematic is not clear i can't see a thing.. can you put the orcad files i will take the print.. and post it.. and orcad files are better.. Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hi ajay,i am not able to attatch the orcad files they are way to big .....this is last try or i 'll send the files thru broad band 1190559082_2984_FT2 shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html what to do next ???now we have got the schematic ....should we wait for our members to get the board done....or should we head to the tutorial ?? shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html well making a PCB is not that simple.. you have to take care of many things and i had talk with shyam personally, he told me that he is busy in othe Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html thanks for the useful infomation given.but sorry to say what the circuit would actually do or what purpose it is survingcan u please rely my question zaffi<sritam2@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html The schematic is quite useless without a PCB, considering the processor being SMD, cant even be tested on a bread board. So i would suggest that if a abhishek_h<abhishek_h@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Don't be scared of ARM, take it as a normal controller yes ajay that is the best thing about arm.....a little intro....u will find arm proccessor in shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html here are the orcad file it is kinda incomplete ......hope some body would get the thing done and post it back 1190652172_2984_FT2416_newschematic.zip shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html now lets get started with the tutorials.....a little googling can get u the pdf...ebook..lpc-arm-book_srn.pdfalso look for..user.manual.lpc2131.lpc213 shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html ARM has an embedded ICE (In-curcuit Emulator). Its a real time debugger. Most of the ARM compilers make use of it, so there's no need for any seperat abhishek_h<abhishek_h@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html here are linksbook:www.cecs.csulb.edu/~brewer/347/lpc-ARM-book_srn.pdf manual: http://www.standardics.nxp.com/support/documents/microcontrollers/pdf/u abbas1707<abbas@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html aha... we are moving to next step then hey abbas, as you have Proteus so you can use that too for simulation purpose just wanted to remind you of i Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html i never had time to test my board using JTAG.....but @abhishek_h if u could provide us the resources to build our own jtag debugger it would be of gr8 shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html sure... we want everyone's contribution.The reason i mentioned Proteus is.. that people who don't think that they can buy/make a development board, if Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html i tried JTAG on PowerPC but not on ARM coz never worked personally on ARM. I used special software that time.. its called single step for PowerPC.Shya Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html as i said there are open source software to go by ARM ex. OCD debugger....but i feel for starters we should use keil demo versionthere we can also sim shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html just any simple application..what you say? that is the problem ajay..........8051 is such a straight forward controller that u rarely ure rtos with i shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hmm... sure i can start.. but people are not too much into OS right now.. and no1 ask about it.. we can start if we first try to implement freeRTOS on Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html yes ,but if somebody is using keil demo versionhe can use rtx51tny/full with it.....the code is small and does not require xram shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html yes.. we are not bothered about what can be done with/without OS, but we are making something that will be an example of using RTOS.so there is only o Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html ok then let us start with this basic example.....it is quite interesting.......just start denug and run in simulation mode ... just to feel what is ha shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html ok we make for RTX tiny then done! Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html owwwwww. that was quick.. but i wanted to make it as a tutorial kind of thing.. so becomes more informative..well you can leave that on me great wor Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hi shyam, i'm now doing a project about an embedded system which will use ARM processor as the backbone and to control a webcam and some other i/o. so milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Nice work shyam,I think if u wana use linux u require 8MB RAMand 16MB of flash which will only be possible in ARM 9 processor try some books on linux, Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html no its not mandatory to have ARM9...you can compile it for ARM7 too.. just make the right linker script to link the different sections and make file t Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html I was talking about LINUX in ARM for that u require large ram and flash and maximum ARM7 processor available is having 512KB of flash so it just like Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html I dont think so,because he told that he wants to control webcam using arm and that becomes possible only when u have an operating system like linux or Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html he is not porting linux on ARM he is just compiling programs on Linux for ARM... Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html no thats not necessary always all you need is to write drivers for that webcam... get the technical information on how webcam works thats all.. also Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html see operation of webcam requires a large memory,and writing a device drivers for an ARM processor is not a joke although if u say that everything is Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html maybe this impress you http://www.surveyor.com/SRV_info.htmlthey are new changed to new processor as the webcam used is a megpix.. before they were u Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html he junied ...ever tried lpc 2294???who said u cant port linux on arm....that is what u call rtlinux.... just exclude the things u dont require..... r shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html @milky,man you really started a discussion here...let us know something about your application,.. is web cam an integral part of it or may be a high shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html great.. so you are on? please share your work with us we all are learning here.. Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html the webcam i'm using just a simple webcam. Wow~y'all really discuss alot since i'm not in. milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html ohya~forget to inform that i chose to use ARM-9 man.haha milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html so which processor in ARM9 core u r usingEP9302 of cyrus is good Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html junied,i'm using EP9315. So for the stage now i need to try some code on it. Does anyone know that, izzit the the C code is just same like how i write milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Linux Ports: http://www.linux.org/projects/ports.htmlARM Linux: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/you will get documentation too... check it.. Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Nice to here that u r using one of the best arm 9 microcontrollers first of all i would like to saythat u will have to use linux with this processor a Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hey~ as i know, for the ARM part i can put aside. because i'm using linux base to write C programming so i need some info about the coding part.i foun milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html i have no idea how to open a video file in C... all i know is gcc is used to compile a C program in Linux I will try if i can find documents for yo Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html ok.thanks alots. milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html are you using MAKEFILE utility? or something else to compile? Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html No~i write my program using ubuntu.Then i use gcc to compile it. milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html oww.. i never seen or worked on ubuntu..i just use the normal VIM Editor of Linux to write programs Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html but now is not using what to compile the code.Now the only problem i'm facing is on the C programming to open a video file. U said that u use normal V milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html The method discussed are quite different from the conventionalMilky u told that Linux is installend on ur SBC isnt itso firstly u require a work space Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html people.. why don't you create a new topic? because this is going out of way as per the topic title is concerned.Milky please create another topic so w Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html thanks u guys for sharing those info.I already started my project.For the stage now is to start writing the code in linux and run some basic operation milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hey guys.A question to ask. why people said that can run LINUX OS on EP9315?izzit means install the linux OS in the ARM9 pro? milky<shitgirl@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html no.. you compile linux on your PC first.. if you want to configure it yourself.. or just use the ports already available... its not actually means ins Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html I think that means weather we can run linux os on arm?and answer is yes although 9315 is the best choice to have linux os on it,and ajay is right inst Junied <junied_electronic@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Till now i was working on 8051 platform and i was using basic based BASCOM compiler . My MCU was P89C51RD2BN . I have made many products using this co vinay1277<jpss1277@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html what man.......no body works without cause......u learn frm me i learn frm u.... neway vinay thnks for appreciation....we wud like contributions frm shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hi vinay...this was exactly the aim while starting the thread....well time has really taken it thru unknown spaces n corners but thnks fr reminding ab shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html only thing i can say is........great......... if we all continue this way then no doubt this forum will attain loads of reputation and respect soon be vinay1277<jpss1277@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html wow!!!Shyam... make saperate topic for each example so we can discuss about it below Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html Shyam is GEM on my forum I hope in future to get more contribution from my members Also wanna thank Abbas and others.. who are helping.. Ajay<contact@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html ok..... basic discussions here...started a new thread for gpio discussion... shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html By implementing my approach you people have acknowleged it. I am basically from Mechanical side but now deep into embedded .By starting new thread for vinay1277<jpss1277@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html hey vinay.....we always needed experienced motivators like u.....nice to have u on our ship.............. shyam<shyam@nospam.com> http://www.8051projects.net/forum-t2416.html